Being that you stated that this was found in the extracellular fluid am I correct in assuming that this is the cerebrospinal fluid? If so, where do you hypothesize that the DMT is synthesized in terms of the measurements you took at the cerebral cortex? Your research team found the circulating levels of DMT at similar levels to very commonly studied neurotransmitters serotonin, dopamine, norepinephrine. I’m obviously biased but this is probably the most important study of the year for sure. JC: Good stuff… so let’s just dive right into it…you did a really big study recently. Rick was nice and encouraging he introduced me to Steve Barker who routinely analyzing controlled substances in his lab, and the rest was history. I told Rick that I was interested in testing his theory, as we were routinely performing pineal microdialysis experiments and I believed that if DMT is ever secreted from the pineal gland, we should have them in the dialysates. I emailed Rick directly and asked him for the evidence that his statement was based on, and was told that it was just his speculation. I was very surprised when I heard Rick saying that DMT was made and secreted in the pineal gland, since I knew nothing about it. One day in 2011, when I googled the word “pineal gland” (hoping to find some cool pictures to include for my class teaching), I came across Rick Strassman’s book (DMT: The Spirit Molecule) and the documentary about the book. I was also teaching our graduate students about the pineal gland. Jimo: I had been working on the pineal gland and studying how dynamic secretion of melatonin from the pineal gland teaches us about how circadian clock works in the mid-2000. Would you mind giving us a little bit of background as to how all of this came about? Rick Strassman got involved in DMT research due to his book “The Spirit Molecule”, not many know about how you got your start in this field. JC: So… while many people have heard the backstory of how Dr. Borjigin can be considered the “Queen” based on her extremely important work in the field since 2012. Rick Strassman can be considered the “King” of DMT research based on his studies from the early 1990’s and wildly popular book “DMT: The Spirit Molecule”… Dr. Borjigin received her PhD from John’s Hopkins University and has published ground-breaking research regarding increased brain oscillatory speeds & coherence following cardiac arrest, the neurochemical fluctuations following asphyxia-based cardiac arrest, the discovery of DMT production in the pineal gland of live rats, and now the most recent study that has observed comparable levels of DMT to common neurotransmitters (dopamine, serotonin, and norepinephrine) in the brain. Jimo Borjigin from the University of Michigan. I recently had a chance to have a conversation with a woman who is leading the scientific pathway to researching the mysterious compound DMT… Dr. Similarly to the cooks of a great meal… it is humans, people, scientists that actually carry out the experiments. This is why it’s so amusing and yet perplexing when people seem to generically pronounce their “love for science” when an interesting study is published. Generally speaking, it’s either the restaurant that receives compliments, the type of meal that receives praise, or homage is paid to the chef directly. It’s difficult to recall the last time that I had a great meal and made the generic claim of “I love food”. Credit needs to go to the following: lead author and fast-rising DMT researcher Jon Dean, Dr. I believe that the recent DMT study published in Scientific Reports is by far the most important study in 2019 and all the scientists involved in the study should deserve wide name recognition and credit for their efforts. It is my opinion that “science” gets way too much credit while real scientists (not celebrities in lab coats) should be the ones getting the credit and publicity of groundbreaking research. These are the people who toil away in obscurity for years doing the hard lab work with little to no recognition for their efforts.
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